In Episode 26 of The Good Oil Podcast, Cam gets to know Nathan Seuli of PILLAR: Protecting Individual Life, Liberty And Rights.
Nathan is a Christian advocate for free speech, civil liberties and rights to privacy and a strong believer in a public square that is moderate, reasonable and transparent.
He unpacks why values matter, what is at stake when they are weakened and why defending them matters for every New Zealander.
A thoughtful conversation with a few hard truths, and two impressive beards at the table.